In an interview with CBS‘ 60 minutes, Microsoft founder and chairman Bill Gates answered several questions about his long time rival Steve Jobs. Reminiscing their last meeting — in May 2011, when Jobs was already very seriously ill — Gates remembers Apple’s co-founder fondly, highlighting his design ideas and the fact that he was still very enthusiastic about the future despite his illness.
“What did he have that you wish you had,” Charlie Rose asked Gates during the interview.
“Oh, his sense of design. That everything had to fit a certain aesthetic. The fact that he, with as little engineering background as he had, it shows that design can lead you in a good direction…and so, phenomenal products came out,” answered Gates.
Though Gates and Jobs were at one point bitter rivals, with Jobs throwing many poison arrows Microsoft’s way, Gates doesn’t seem to hold a grudge against the guy who once said Microsoft has “no taste.” In fact, his memories of Jobs seem fond, more than anything else.
“He and I, in a sense, grew up together, and every fantasy we had about creating products and learning new things, you know, we achieved all of it,” said Gates.